Sen Johnson Ron Johnson and NBC News host Chuck Todd had a heated debate on Sunday over Republicans’ attempt to challenge the Electoral College certification during a joint congressional hearing this week.
Johnson, one of at least 12 GOP senators who will object to the certification on Wednesday, disputes allegations that they are trying to undo the vote that gave President-elect Joe Biden 306 election votes to President Trump’s 232.
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“We are not acting to stop the democratic process – we are acting to protect it,” Johnson said.
“The fact is that we have an unsustainable state of affairs in this country, where we have tens of millions of people who do not consider this election result to be legal,” the Wisconsin Republican said, “Meet the Press.”
In this December 12, 2020, President Donald Trump steps on the South Lawn of the White House in Washington before boarding Marine One. (AP Photo / Patrick Semansky, file)
In a statement, Johnson and his fellow Republicans, including Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas and Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee and four incoming senators, claim that the election “contains unprecedented allegations of voter fraud” and called on Congress to appoint a commission to run. a 10-day audit.
“As long as someone is going to object to this and we are going to vote, let’s propose a solution in terms of transparency, investigation, with a commission,” Johnson said.
But Todd noted that the controversy is the result of the president and his Republican allies repeatedly alleging voter fraud, even though the courts have rejected numerous lawsuits from Trump’s legal team and GOP lawmakers.
‘You made a claim that there was widespread fraud, you could not provide specific evidence of the widespread fraud, but you are claiming an investigation based on the existence of allegations of widespread fraud. “Trump is the arsonist here,” Todd told Johnson.
“Because you did not have the opportunity to tell the truth that this election was fair!” he continues.
But Johnson fired back to say Todd was the ‘arsonist’ because the mainstream media in January 2017 “pretended to be unbiased, dropped and actually sided during the election.”
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Johnson said the media threw fuel on the fire as they ignored the investigation into Hunter Biden’s business transactions in China and Ukraine.
“Senator, well, I’ve had enough,” Todd said.
“I’ve had enough of this, too,” Johnson said, noting that the media is biased against Trump.
Todd told Johnson that he and his colleagues could not make these allegations true, and that he asked who won Wisconsin.
“Vice President Biden won by 20,000 votes. But there are also issues in Wisconsin,” Johnson said, continuing to question the systems used to vote the votes in the state.
During a back-and-forth in which both interrupt each other, Todd asks why he does not hold hearings on the “9/11 truths. There are many people who thought 9/11 was an inside job.”
“What you’re basically saying is if there are enough people who believe in a conspiracy theory … what about the moon landing? Are you going to hold hearings about it?”
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“There are some issues that need to be investigated and investigated,” Johnson said of the 2020 election.
Todd, at the end of the interview, thanked Johnson for his appearance because “only two of your colleagues at the weekend had the courage to say yes to this conspiracy theory you are working on.”