Qualcomm announces Snapdragon 870: an 865 ++?

Today, Qualcomm makes a rather unexpected announcement of the SoC in the form of the new Snapdragon 870. The chip is a rather strange version in Qualcomm’s chipset setup in that it is actually a part derived from the Snapdragon 865 series from last year, with the new model it is a new silicone bowl that increases the clock frequencies for a small performance improvement, although it gets a model name that indicates major changes (of which there are none).

Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 SKUs
SoC Snapdragon 865 Snapdragon 865+

Snapdragon 870

SVE 1x Cortex A77
@ 2.84GHz 1x512KB pL2

3x Cortex A77
@ 2.42 GHz 3×256 KB pL2

4x Cortex A55
@ 1.80 GHz 4x128KB pL2

4MB sL3 @? MHz

1x Cortex A77
@ 3.09 GHz 1x512KB pL2

3x Cortex A77
@ 2.42 GHz 3×256 KB pL2

4x Cortex A55
@ 1.80 GHz 4x128KB pL2

4MB sL3 @? MHz

1x Cortex A77
@ 3.2 GHz 1x512KB pL2

3x Cortex A77
@ 2.42 GHz 3×256 KB pL2

4x Cortex A55
@ 1.80 GHz 4x128KB pL2

4MB sL3 @? MHz

GPU Adreno 650 @ 587 MHz Adreno 650 @ 670MHz
DSP / NPU Hexagon 698

15 TOPS AI
(Total CPU + GPU + HVX + Tensor)

Memory
Admin
4x 16-bit CH

@ 2133MHz LPDDR4X / 33.4GB / s
or
@ 2750MHz LPDDR5 / 44.0GB / s

3MB cache level at system level

ISP / Camera Dual 14-bit Spectra 480 ISP

1x 200MP

64MP ZSL or 2x 25MP ZSL

4K video and 64MP burst recording

Encode /
Decode
8K30 / 4K120 10-bit H.265

Dolby Vision, HDR10 +, HDR10, HLG

720p960 infinite recording

Integrated modem no
(Only connected to external X55)

(LTE Category 24/22)
DL = 2500 Mbps
7x20MHz CA, 1024-QAM
UL = 316 Mbps
3x20MHz CA, 256-QAM

(5G NR Sub-6 + mmGolf)
DL = 7000 Mbps
UL = 3000 Mbps

Mfc. Process TSMC
7 nm (N7P)

The new Snapdragon 870 is still based on the ‘SM8250’ silicone chip design we saw last year in the Snapdragon 865 and Snapdragon 865+. model number.

The specification changes compared to the Snapdragon 865+ released last summer are quite limited and relate only to the main CPU core: the fastest Cortex-A77 core here rises from 3.09 GHz to 3.2 GHz.

Qualcomm’s reason for calling it Snapdragon 870 is simply that they did not want to go the route of using something like ‘Snapdragon 865 Plus Plus’, although I would argue that it is called ‘Snapdragon 865 Pro’ or ‘Snapdragon 866’ . was perhaps a little more representative of what the chip is.

The release of this new SKU is rather strange, as it is the first time ever that Qualcomm has announced a refresh of a last generation part after the announcement and commercial release of their latest flagship SoC, that is the newer Snapdragon 888.

In today’s press release, Qualcomm shares that key customers such as Motorola, iQOO, OnePlus, OPPO and Xiaomi will use the Snapdragon 870 in a variety of flagship devices this year. This is indeed quite strange as well, because in the past we have rarely seen sellers release new phones based on last year’s SoC design.

One theory I had is that because we have not yet seen a successor to the Snapdragon 765 (which was announced in 2019 in combination with the 865), and that it might instead be a dedicated SoC in the ‘ premium ‘SoC series, the company can recycle the flagship SoCs of the previous year, a tactic that I think could be completely valid and viable. However, the company rejected the idea, revealing that the new 870 should not replace the 765, and that a true successor to the 765 would go further.

So it looks like this year we will see new contemporary smartphone designs with the Snapdragon 888 as well as the Snapdragon 870 in the flagship segment, which will be very interesting to see how it plays out in terms of performance, function and especially price differentiation.

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