Oprah Winfrey shares more of her groundbreaking interview with Prince Harry and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, after the two-hour program that aired on CBS on Sunday night.
In the previously unprecedented clips, the couple discuss why they believe race has a difference in the way Meghan was treated by Buckingham Palace and British tabloids. They also open a visit to Queen Elizabeth who is abruptly canceled after the couple’s decision to retire from the royal service in early 2020.
In the Sunday special, the Duchess of Sussex breaks with previous media stories and tells Winfrey that Kate Middleton, Duchess of Cambridge, made her cry the days before her wedding. Earlier reports said Meghan had made Kate cry over the arrangements for the ceremony.
The Duchess of Sussex also unveils their second child, because of this summer, would be a girl. They also claim that concerns were expressed within Buckingham Palace before their first son, Archie, was born about how dark his skin color might be. Winfrey, who joined CBS This Morning the day after the interview, said Prince Harry wanted to make it clear that the remarks were not made by Queen Elizabeth or Prince Phillip.
Gayle King, co-presenter of ‘CBS This Morning’, said Winfrey calls the ‘best interview’ of her career.
“Did you leave the country because of racism?” Winfrey asked the couple in the first previously untouched clip.
Prince Harry said ‘it was a big part of it’, recalling one event in particular.
“I remember the Sentebale fundraiser,” he said. “And one of the people at the dinner said to me, ‘Please don’t do this to the media. They will destroy your life. ‘This person is friends with many editors and such. “
Harry continues, “I said, ‘Sorry, expand on what you mean by that?’ “So I knew. He said: “Please understand that the United Kingdom is very large.” And I stopped and said, ‘The UK is not generous. The British press is generous, specifically the tabloids. Is that what you mean? ‘
He says: ‘No, the UK is big. “And I said, ‘I totally disagree.’ But alas, if the source of information is inherently corrupt or racist or biased, then it filters out to the rest of society. ‘
In the second episode, the Duke of Sussex talks to Winfrey about how a trip to Queen Elizabeth II was abruptly taken after a letter to Buckingham Palace in early 2020 in which they told the royal family that they were relinquishing their formal duties would withdraw. .
“The announcement we made on January 8, 2020, it was – its contents were placed in a letter to the institution to my father, which was then shared at the end of December while we were in Canada,” Prince Harry said. “And then to return on the 6th after my grandmother said, ‘The moment you land, come up.’
Meghan said she and Harry asked if they could go see the monarch.
According to Harry, the Queen said: “Yes, come up to Sandringham. Like to chat. Come drink tea. Why do not you stay for dinner? It’s going to be a long drive and you’ll be exhausted.”
“She wanted us to stay overnight,” Meghan added.
The prince said they would have ‘liked it’ until he received a message from his private secretary ‘the moment we landed in the UK’.
“Private secretary is an executive role within the institution,” Meghan said.
Harry said his then-private secretary Fiona “basically cut and pasted a message from the queen’s private secretary.”
“Please go with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex so he can not come to Norfolk. The Queen is busy. She is busy all week,” he said in the letter.
He continues: ‘She just invited me. The queen is busy. She’s been busy all week. Do not come here. ‘
Harry said he called his grandmother from Frogmore Cottage that night, where the couple lived before Archie’s birth. He asked her if there could be any anyway, but he heard she was busy.
And she said, ‘Yes, I have something in my diary that I did not know. “And I said, ‘Well, what about the rest of the week?’ She says, “Well, it’s busy now, too.”
He said he did not want to press, “because I kind of knew what was going on.”
“Can’t the queen get what the queen wants to do?” Ask Winfrey.
Harry said no.
“If you are the head of the firm, there are people around you who give you advice,” he said. “And what also made me very sad is that the advice was really bad.”
In the two-hour special interview, Meghan and Harry talked about the feeling of alienation from the rest of the royal family, while Harry needed his relationship with older brother William, Duke of Cambridge, as ‘space’.
The third track that Winfrey shows on ‘CBS This Morning’ features the couple describing the environment in which Harry was raised and how the royal family compares Meghan’s tabloid coverage to that of Kate, Duchess of Cambridge.
“You had these conversations with your family members. They know why you left,” Winfrey said. “So did someone say, ‘I’m sorry you had to make the move,’ or ‘sorry you felt you had to do it because you felt we did not support you’?”
Harry said no one had it.
“The feeling is that it was our decision, so the consequences are on us. And despite three years of asking for help and seeing if we visualize how it could end – it was, I do not know, just – look, it was really difficult “Because I try. I’m part of the system with them. I’ve always been.”
The prince said he was aware that his older brother, the second in line for the throne, could not leave the system as he had.
Asked if Prince William would like to leave the system, Harry said: “I do not know. I can not speak for him.”
“But with the relationship and the control and the fear by the British tabloids, it’s really a toxic environment. But I’ll always be there for him. I’ll always be there for my family. And like I said, I’m. tried to help them see what had happened, ‘said Prince Harry.
Winfrey asked him if his family – for example, his father Charles – agreed that the environment was toxic.
“No, I think he should have made peace with that,” Harry said.
Meghan said she could not make peace with it herself because the situation was different.
“I think what they – and that’s why I would say, and I can not speak for them either – if they can not see that it is different, what happens to Kate then when she was, you know,” Meghan said. said.
Winfrey asked if race is the difference.
“And social media,” Meghan replies. “It did not exist. And so it was like the wild, west west. It spread like wildfire. And because I was an American, it translated across the dam in a different way. You “So they had a very different sound level. But they can not see that it is different.”
“So you felt bullied internationally?” Ask Winfrey.
Meghan said: ‘I think the volume of income and interest was greater because of social media, because I was not just the British, and unfortunately, when members of his family say,’ Well, that’s what happened to us. all happened – if they can compare what the experience I went through was similar to what was shared with us. ‘
She uses a nickname given to her sister-in-law before she married William.
“Kate is called ‘Waity Katie’ and is waiting to marry William while I think it was really hard. I can not imagine how it feels. It’s not the same,” Meghan said.
She continues: “And if a family member would comfortably say that we all had to deal with things that are rude, rude and racist, it is not the same.”
The Duchess of Sussex claims that the press team that would defend the royal family “if they know something is not true” came to their defense.
Winfrey asked Prince Harry if he hoped his family would ever admit that the differences in treatment were about race.
“It would make a big difference,” he said. “Like I said, there are a lot of people who have seen it the way it was … the way it’s talked about around the world.”
The people who do not want to see it, Harry claims, “choose not to see it.”